NEAR_DISASTER UNDER SEA**
Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:27 pm
From: jjoh781262@...
Date: Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [USS_James_Madison_SSBN627] July Reunion
YOU ALL REMEMBER NEWs REPORTER JACK ANDERSON:
THIs IN MY SCRAP BOOK ;
NEAR_DISASTER UNDER SEA
WASHINGTON-TWO PROWLING NUCLEAR SUBMARINES,ONE AMERCIAN,THE OTHER SOVIET SIDESWIPED ONE ANOTHER UNDER THE NORTH SEA ON NOVEMBER 3.,THEBIZARRE UNDERSEA COLLISION,WHICH CAME WITHIN INCHES OF SINKING BOTH SUBS,HAS NEVER BEEN REVEALED.BUT WE HAVE OBTAINED THE DETAILS FROM ON_THE_SPOT SOURCES. THE USS MADISON,A POLARIS SUBMARINE BRISTLING WITH ARMED NUCLEAR MISSILES,WAS PATROLLING BENEATH THE NORTH SEA WHEN, TO THE UTTER ASTONISHMENT OF THE
CREW,THE TWO SUBS SCRAPED HULLS.BOTH SURGED TO THE SURFACE WHERE THEY INSPECTED ONE ANOTHER WARILY FROM A SHORT DISTANCE.IT COULD HAVE BEN AN UGLY INCIDENT.PERHAPS A NAVAL CONFRONTATION ON THE HIGH SEAS,BUT THE SKIPPERS OF BOTH
SUBS KEPT COOL AND MOVED OFF IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS,WITH OUT ANY COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE. NOT LONG AFTERWARDS,THE MADISON PULLED INTO ITS BASE AT HOLY LOCH,SCOTLAND,WITH A NINE-FOOT SCRAPE ALONG ITS HULL.IT WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN
MUCH MORE IMPACT TO HAVE RIPPED OPEN THE HULLS OF BOTH SUBS.THERE IS CONFUSION OVER WHO WAS TO BLAME FOR THE ACCIDENT.BOTH SUBS SHOULD HAVE BEEN EQUIPED WITH NAVIGATIONAL GEAR,WHICH SHOULD HAVE DETECTED THE APPROACH OF THE OTHER.THE MADISON WAS ON ITS FIRST SHAKEDOWN PATROL AFTER AN OVERHAUL.BUT NO DEFECTS HAD BEEN DISCOVERED
IN THE NAV.EQUIPMENT.IF THE COLLISION HAD RUPTURED AND SUNK THE TWO NUCLEAR SUBS,ACCORDING TO OUR SOURCES THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO NUCLEAR HAZARD. THE NUCLEAR GEAR IN U.S. SUBS,THEY,HAVE ENOUGH PROTECTIVE ENCASING TO PREVENT SUCH
A DISATER.
FOOTNOTE;THE NAVY REFUSED TO COMMENT ON THE INCIDENT.
JAMES JOHNSON(MM1)(RET)
SMOOTH SAILING FRIENDS
Date: Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [USS_James_Madison_SSBN627] July Reunion
YOU ALL REMEMBER NEWs REPORTER JACK ANDERSON:
THIs IN MY SCRAP BOOK ;
NEAR_DISASTER UNDER SEA
WASHINGTON-TWO PROWLING NUCLEAR SUBMARINES,ONE AMERCIAN,THE OTHER SOVIET SIDESWIPED ONE ANOTHER UNDER THE NORTH SEA ON NOVEMBER 3.,THEBIZARRE UNDERSEA COLLISION,WHICH CAME WITHIN INCHES OF SINKING BOTH SUBS,HAS NEVER BEEN REVEALED.BUT WE HAVE OBTAINED THE DETAILS FROM ON_THE_SPOT SOURCES. THE USS MADISON,A POLARIS SUBMARINE BRISTLING WITH ARMED NUCLEAR MISSILES,WAS PATROLLING BENEATH THE NORTH SEA WHEN, TO THE UTTER ASTONISHMENT OF THE
CREW,THE TWO SUBS SCRAPED HULLS.BOTH SURGED TO THE SURFACE WHERE THEY INSPECTED ONE ANOTHER WARILY FROM A SHORT DISTANCE.IT COULD HAVE BEN AN UGLY INCIDENT.PERHAPS A NAVAL CONFRONTATION ON THE HIGH SEAS,BUT THE SKIPPERS OF BOTH
SUBS KEPT COOL AND MOVED OFF IN OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS,WITH OUT ANY COMMUNICATIONS EXCHANGE. NOT LONG AFTERWARDS,THE MADISON PULLED INTO ITS BASE AT HOLY LOCH,SCOTLAND,WITH A NINE-FOOT SCRAPE ALONG ITS HULL.IT WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN
MUCH MORE IMPACT TO HAVE RIPPED OPEN THE HULLS OF BOTH SUBS.THERE IS CONFUSION OVER WHO WAS TO BLAME FOR THE ACCIDENT.BOTH SUBS SHOULD HAVE BEEN EQUIPED WITH NAVIGATIONAL GEAR,WHICH SHOULD HAVE DETECTED THE APPROACH OF THE OTHER.THE MADISON WAS ON ITS FIRST SHAKEDOWN PATROL AFTER AN OVERHAUL.BUT NO DEFECTS HAD BEEN DISCOVERED
IN THE NAV.EQUIPMENT.IF THE COLLISION HAD RUPTURED AND SUNK THE TWO NUCLEAR SUBS,ACCORDING TO OUR SOURCES THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO NUCLEAR HAZARD. THE NUCLEAR GEAR IN U.S. SUBS,THEY,HAVE ENOUGH PROTECTIVE ENCASING TO PREVENT SUCH
A DISATER.
FOOTNOTE;THE NAVY REFUSED TO COMMENT ON THE INCIDENT.
JAMES JOHNSON(MM1)(RET)
SMOOTH SAILING FRIENDS
that it was quite an awful sound as the two ships exchanged paint. I don't have anymore details 
but this supposedly happened to the Blue crew. Check out the report in Clancy's book.
on the starbord outboard side of the library when it happened! I had an outboard bunk. If it were not for the hull between us, I could have touched the Victor 